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Was it Russia? – Ukraine is sued

Why is Borge Brende so confident that it was Russia that shot down the Malaysian passenger plane in 2014? 




(THIS ARTICLE IS MACHINE TRANSLATED by Google from Norwegian)

The 17. July 2014 was a Malaysian passenger aircraft, MH17, shot down over the war zone in eastern Ukraine. All the 298 people on board perished. The scapegoats immediately became Moscow and the Russian-speaking rebels in eastern Ukraine. Norwegian Foreign Minister Børge Brende blamed Moscow for telling TV2 the 3. August 2014: "Sanctions [against Russia] came in full last Friday, not least after the MH17 was shot down ... [There were] major changes after the Malaysian passenger plane was also shot down. You couldn't accept that this was going on, and Putin had said clearly. " "Shells." Ukraine claimed that the Russians had brought BUK missiles into the war zone. The Russians, in turn, presented satellite images that indicated that Ukraine was moving BUK missiles to the region, and then moving them back the next day. According to journalist Robert Parry (who revealed the Iran-Contras case in 1985), the CIA's satellite images also point to the Ukrainian military. Parry says one of the CIA's hypotheses is that forces in Ukraine were mistaken for one aircraft and another: They should not have shot down the white MH17 aircraft with blue and red edges, but Putin's presidential aircraft, which came from the BRICS meeting in Brazil , and have the same colors. The Commission of Inquiry, which was led by the Netherlands and had participants from Belgium, Ukraine and Australia, and from 2015 also from Malaysia, made the report public on October 13, 2015. The commission had found "projectiles" from a Russian-made BUK missile. From the beginning it was said that rebels had used a Russian BUK missile to shoot down the aircraft. These "projectiles" were perceived as evidence. Ukraine's Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk said that the firing of this aircraft must have required Russian specialists. However, the Malaysian Transport Minister said there was no evidence against any particular state or actor. All states in the Commission have veto rights, which means that Ukraine as a possible suspect for being behind the shooting cannot be criticized for the report. Instead of saying this, the report was used in the propaganda war. Russian manufacturer Almaz-Antey has confirmed that the displayed "projectiles" come from a BUK missile. They say they are from a previous type of BUK missile called the 9M38. This type has not been produced since 1986, and no longer exists in Russia, according to Almaz-Antey – while Ukraine is said to have hundreds of them. A BUK missile explodes a few meters from the target, spreading thousands of small "projectiles" across the fuselage. However, these fragments come from one direction, and the hull of the cockpit had apparently been hit from two different sides. It had both exit holes and entrance holes on the same side. Unclear and uncertain. In addition to the holes from the projectiles, there are also completely round holes in the hull. Many have wondered if the aircraft was shot down by a fighter jet using both an air-to-air missile and a 30 mm machine gun. 30 mm ammunition has also been photographed among the wreckage parts of the MH17. This ammunition is suspected of a Ukrainian fighter jet, and many witnesses have told the BBC, among other things, that one or two fighter jets were in place at the explosion. The Russians have also presented radar images that show this – while Ukraine's radar images show the opposite. We do not know for sure what is true.

The firing of KAL 007 was one of the most serious events during the Cold War. The United States thought it was a deliberate massacre.

The only thing we can say is that Ukraine as a state is responsible for allowing civilian planes to move over a war zone, and German families who lost their loved ones in the MH17 disaster have sued Ukraine. According to international law, it is the host country, ie Ukraine, that is obliged to close the airspace when there is war. It may take a long time before we can say who is responsible for the shooting down of MH17. On June 27, 1980, an Italian passenger plane, the Itavia 870, was shot down on its way to Palermo. 81 people died. The subsequent investigation showed that a Libyan fighter jet had also been shot down. In 1999, it was revealed that Itavia 870 had been hit by a Western missile – but it was not until 2008 (28 years after the incident) that Italy's former president Francesco Cossiga said that France was responsible. The French navy had tried to shoot down a plane en route from East Germany to Libya with Muammar Gaddafi on board. In 2011, even more of the story came to light. Colonel Gaddafi had landed safely in Malta (possibly he was informed by Italian intelligence), while France by a fatal mistake hit the Italian passenger plane instead. As in the CIA hypothesis for MH17, an ordinary passenger plane was taken to be a plane with a political leader on board. The French then placed a bomb on Libyan Arab Airlines' office in Valletta, Malta. Tensions and fogging. On September 1, 1983, a Soviet fighter jet shot down the South Korean passenger aircraft KAL 007 south of Sakhalin. 269 ​​people died instantly. The plane had flown thousands of kilometers over Soviet territory – over the top secret naval base at Petropavlovsk in Kamchatka. The CIA believed that the Soviet had mistaken KAL 007 and believed it was the American spy aircraft RC-135, which had crossed their path earlier. It was speculated that the United States had allowed KAL 007 to trigger the Soviet air defense to spy on their radars, because in April 1978, a South Korean passenger aircraft – KAL 902 – had flown over it Secondly, large top secret Soviet naval base (at Kola). This plane was forced down by Murmansk. Even then, the Soviet Union had identified the aircraft as an American spy aircraft. The firing of KAL 007 was one of the most serious events during the Cold War. The United States thought it was a deliberate massacre. The Russians, in turn, were very nervous. Aircraft with nuclear bombs were running with the engines in anticipation of a US attack. President Reagan clearly stated that it was a deliberate shooting down of a civilian aircraft: "This crime against humanity must never be forgotten. take it to be something other than a civilian aircraft. ... This was the Soviet against the world ... a barbaric act, "the president said in a speech to the nation's residents on September 5, 1983. KAL 007 had flown for more than two hours over Soviet territory, over Kamchatka and Sakhalin, without contact. What President Reagan did not say was that the National Security Agency (NSA) had been following the conversation between Soviet flight officers and the generals all along. They knew that the Russians at that time thought the aircraft was the US spy aircraft RC-135, which had crossed the flight route to KAL 007. The NSA knew well that the RC-135 had flown out of the area and that the Russians were now following a civilian passenger aircraft. The NSA listening station at Hokkaido had also sent three messages of the highest priority to inform the president. If this information had been reached, the United States could have used the "hot line," the direct line of communication between the United States and the Soviet Union, to stop the massacre. There was plenty of time, but according to other sources I have talked to, the messages were stopped in the American system. Instead of this, KAL 007 was used instead in the propaganda war. Many died. On July 3, 1988, the US missile cruiser fired USS Vincennes down Iran Air IR 655 en route to Dubai. 290 people died. The plane was shot down over Iranian territory. The crew of the USS Vincennes had been mistaken for IR 655 and thought it was a military aircraft, but much of the information surrounding it is still secretly stamped. Iran believes the shooting was a deliberate mass murder. The media reported it as a tragic event, and the case disappeared from the big headlines shortly thereafter. Many believed that the bomb placed on the Pan Am 103 plane over Lockerbie in Scotland on December 21, 1988, in which 259 people died in the crash, was Iran's response to the US firing down IR 655. Following the US war with Iraq in 1991 and Iran In support of the United States, responsibility was placed on Libya instead. A crucial piece of evidence was a "timer" to trigger the bomb, which had been sold to Libya from the Swiss company Mebo. A Libyan agent was sentenced to prison. But 20 years later, it was proven that the "hours" that Mebo had sold to Libya did not have the same chemical composition as the one in Pan Am 103. We do not know who was responsible. On October 4, 2001, Russian passenger aircraft Siberia Airlines 1812, which was en route from Tel Aviv to Novosibirsk, was accidentally shot down over Crimea by a Ukrainian missile. This is at least the usual description of the incident. Ukraine paid compensation to the abandoned Russian families of the 78 people killed in the shooting. Who shot down MH17 in July 2014 is still unclear. Delusions? Foreign Minister Børge Brende says that Russia is responsible for the firing of the MH17. But what does he really know about it? As a sleepwalker, Norway is in the process of supporting a conflict that could lead to a serious global confrontation, as in the case of KAL 007, with battle-ready bombers and nuclear weapons. There is nothing to suggest that the Russian leadership will give in. They do not claim to be involved in the shooting. How does Borge Brende know that it was not Ukraine that shot down the plane in 2014, as was the case with Siberia Airlines in 2001? How can Brende be sure that groups in Ukraine do not confuse one aircraft with another, as France did in 1980, and as the United States did in 1988? How does Brende know that the United States has not used the firing of MH17 in a deliberate propaganda war, as they did with KAL 007? And how does Brende know that it can't have the same consequences today as 1983? We do not know. But we know that forces in Ukraine will legitimize a confrontation with Russia to build the West's military border as close to Russia as possible. This is not in Norwegian interest. All efforts that have been made by the Norwegian side since the 1990s to establish a Norwegian relaxation in relation to Russia in the north should be forgotten. The worst thing is that Norwegian political leaders seem to believe what they say.


Tunander is a research professor at the Institute for Peace Research (PRIO) in Oslo. ola@prio.no

Ola Tunander
Ola Tunander
Tunander is Professor Emeritus of PRIO. See also wikipedia, at PRIO: , as well as a bibliography on Waterstone

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