- We must be happy, even with the prospect of extinction

One October afternoon in the corona year 2020, MODERN TIMES meets the Italian activist philosopher Franco «Bifo» Berardi for a conversation in Bologna, his hometown. Berardi, perhaps one of the most important thinkers of our time, is skeptical of the new, pandemic existence.

It's embarrassing not to be able to be close to other people, to hug and kiss here in Italy when we meet. When I see other people's skin, now suddenly my perception is also marked by a certain phobia. But it is worse for a younger generation on their way into their social life, their erotic life. Keeping distance from other bodies is internalized as "natural" for them. We ask Berardi, who has the answer at hand:

- This is very serious from a. . .

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